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Hi my name is Pat and I think this is  really a cool site .....Angela, being a mother of 3 and a grandmother of 8 what worked for me was making sure I gave my babies a nice warm bath and massaged them really good with a soothing baby lotion.  Also, a nice warm cup or bottle of milk right before they go to bed will help them sleep thru the night.  Even at 9 months, they will wake up during the night if they're hungry.  As for as waking up the 8 year old, try to get the baby out of the room as soon as you can and take him/her to another part of the house.  Also, do not turn on any lights. ..........use a night light. 

BTW Angela, and others, if you have not been to the Ask Moxie blog and you have little kids, you should check it out (http://moxie.blogs.com/askmoxie). It is awesome. You can search old ones by topic. Moxie has some good advice but the community of readers/commenters that has built up around it is even better, so you get all these perspectives on things like how to get a kid sleeping through the night. It's a little crunchy (a lot of "attachment parenting" folks) but seriously helped me keep my sanity a few times in that first year in particular. It does deal with issues of older kids too/

Angela, I have no insight on the helping-the-older-child-sleep-through it question, since I only have one. I joined the cry-it-out school. I know this is a very hot button topic and some people feel very uncomfortable with this, which I respect, but it worked for our family. Only my husband would go in there and comfort her when she woke up and cried. No mom at night. (I know this is really kind of a luxury option, depending on your situation.) This eliminated the reward-with-milk or taunt-with-milk factor. Then we'd wait however long we could stand it before he'd go in again. As someone else said, we didn't pick her up either, just rubbed her back. It was hard to do, but the wakeups were fewer every night and she was sleeping through the night consistently after a couple of weeks. And she was so much happier and well-rested during the day that I had to feel I was doing her a favor, even though she didn't understand it.

We used a noise machine too. We still run an air purifier in her room which drowns out sounds. You could maybe do this in your older child's room as well -- the purifier just sounds like a fan, you can choose how loud it is, and heck, it never hurts to purify the air around your kid. You might try different furniture arrangements, too, if your sons' rooms are adjacent. This sounds crazy but big, heavy furniture on the dividing wall, or bookshelves, really do help absorb the sound. Good luck.

Angela, i wish i had a suggestion as to how to get a 9month old to sleep but my children are 7yrs and 4 yrs and still  wake each other up during the night.  Can anyone tell at what age this will stop or make any suggestions as how to change this habit? 

Hey everybody! My name is Gini and I have three girls that keep me very busy.  I love the new site and look forward to chatting with other busy Mom's about how you juggle working full time and being a Mom full time. 

Angela - as for getting the 9 month old to sleep at night... good luck! I used to sit in the floor by the door so mine could see me but I would not give them any attention. They just knew I was there. Eventually, they would fall asleep. Some nights took hours, some nights take less than 5 minutes.